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Power grid and 10 plus= no spark

outlawss — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:16:32 GMT

I just recently built a completely new combo and purchased a brand new power grid and then purchased a used MSD 10 plus that was said to be in working order. I finished the car up and went to check for spark at the plugs and i have no spark. I did the white wire test and i am not getting any spark. Is there something i am possibly missing that would cause no spark? I checked power and everything is getting power. I also double checked the grid to make sure it was set up for crank trigger and the MSD 8 ignition setting.

Im hoping i am just over looking something stupid... One other thing i might add is when i first wired the boxes up we turned the power to the car and ignition on and forgot to connect the plug wire to the coil and the MSD 10 plus was making some really weird whistling/buzzing noise. After i noticed the coil plug wire was off the coil we connected it and the noise went away. What is the average repair cost for one of these boxes? Please HELP! I am dying to fire this car up!!

Corey
1-586-405-3119

6010 and 2 step/ rev limiter question

thumpn — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:18:53 GMT

As you know from past threads I am running the 6010 box, now my question is, When the 2 step or the box hits rev limit, what does the box do to maintain that limit? does it restrict the timing as a retard or does it cut cyl's? If it cuts Cly's , are they specific ones or is it just random between all 8. Also can the box detect a miss fire like it does for the cam and crank sensor malfunction?

6al-2 help

alfred56 — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:05:11 GMT

truck quit on me driving to work and would not restart so took msd out and fired right up led flashes 3 times when hooked up tried spark test and nothing think something is wrong with box and other suggestions

83506 Ready-to-Run Marine V8 Distributor problems

brianwells1961 — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:08:05 GMT

I have a 1989 460 OMC . Ford engine. Is it possible on the distributor itself, that the # 1 location could be on the exact opposite of the original points type distributor?

I am really fed up fighting with this already. Boating season is almost half over.
I can not get it to run. I also have the 8.5mm wires and blaster 2 coil

What??? I don't deserve a response ???

MSD Not Sealing

Ohiorick — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:45:50 GMT

Hi everyone.
I have two questions and would also like to share issues I have found with the Distributor cap not sealing.
This MSD is a 8353 unit that fits onto the front of a flathead engine. I have recently came across a plug cutting out during acceleration. I run a 6A box and Taylor silicone wires with Autolite plugs.
After pulling the cap off the front mounted unit this is what I found.
Dirt, dust and corrosion. I run this engine daily through even wet weather. Its been on the engine for 4 years. It appears as though the cap does not seal completely. These units fit low near the road and could easily pick up road spray and dust during operation. These need to be sealed better. See picture

Two questions also.
Should this unit use a internally resisted coil?

MSD indicates
The main determining factor for gapping a spark plug is the compression ratio of the motor. Once you have determined this then you can properly gap your plugs. This chart is a good starting point:
COMPRESSION.......PLUG GAP
Up to 10:5:1.........0.040"-0.060"
10.5:1 - 13.0:1.....0.032"-0.040"
Above 13.0:1........0.025"-0.032"

Flathead engines typically runs 7 to 1 compression.
My engine calls for a max of .030 gap.
MSD calls for .040 through .060.
IS this correct???

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MSD for Renault K7M engine?

alin — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:24:55 GMT

Good day to you all, I live in Europe and I have a Dacia Logan 1.6 liter gasoline engine....in fact, at its basis, its a K7M 710 Renault engine (clio)
I have read lots of reviews and forum topics that say that MSD ignition is the best solutions for many cars, so I was wondering if MSD has a solution for my modest engine....
To be more precise, im interested in a spark plug wire high performance set ( already sent an e-mail to one of your dealers) and also a high performance coil for my engine....Any information or opinion is most welcomed !

Spark blow out issues turbo car

Mark.hutch — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:33:31 GMT

Hi Pat,
I have a turbo honda 1.6L D16 , i have used the msd sci box and blaster SS coil, msd cap and rotor, since i built this car and have no problems until recently. I run 14psi on the street on pump gas and 20-25 psi at the track on c112. The car has gone 11.80@120s with no problems.
I use a r5671-8 NGK plug, and i have always ran the stock gap on them its usually around .030. The past year or so i have had some spark blow out. I would gap the plugs down to .022 and it would be fine for a couple months then fall on its face in boost @ 10-14psi. I wpuld put a new set of plugs in gapped to .022 and everything would be fine again for a month then the problem would return.
As of lately, even plugs gapped lower than .020 wont do shit and the car runs great till it gets into boost and then it feels like someone shut the key off and slammed on the brakes its blowing the spark out so bad.

I pulled the cap off and everything looked fine , just the usual green fuzzys. I am maybe thinking the coil or box is getting weak? Like i said i used to run this car with stock plug gaps no problems And it seems to be getting weaker and weaker

What suggestions do you have or what tests can i do to diagnose?

Thanks for your time,
Mark

Ballast Resistor

scott747driver — Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:35:09 GMT

Hi
I have a Dig7, HVCII coil, and a Unilite distributor. Do I need to run a ballast resistor?
Thanks

Power Grid with Pro Mag 44

rcecarbldr — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:43:27 GMT

I'm putting the finishing touches on a 14-71 blown BBC that has a Pro Mag 44 system and a Power Grid. My problem is I mounted the Pro Mag amp box in the front of the car close to the coil and Mag but the Power Grid is mounted inside the car on the firewall. The Legacy wire is too short to reach by about 2 feet. Do you offer an extension wire or ??? Here is a picture showing where the Mag box and coil is mounted. The Power Grid box is on the passenger side just like those items but on the other side of the firewall. Thanks.

Intermittent miss and backfire with Power Grid

racereadyfab — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:04:21 GMT

Installed a new power grid 7730/7720 combo with a new HVC ll coil. We got the car running tonight and intermittently the car pops out the exhaust and blows fire out the carb. Sometimes while trying to start all it does is backfire and pop and other times it fires right up and runs great.

Some observations: With the car running no more than a minute the coil wire was fire hot, couldn't touch it more than a second without burning your hand. Called MSD tech and they asked about grounds. I had a 1/0 ground ran from battery to cylinder head but not from one head to the other. So we did that and also grounded the coil to the head. Tech also suggested ohming out spark plug wires. They checked fine according to their recommendation of 40-50 ohms per foot. We started the car after changes and it ran as good as it ever had. Shut the car down and tried to restart it was popping and backfiring again.

I'm at a loss as to what's wrong. It may not be a grid or ignition issue but the car ran fine last season with the 7AL and blaster.

Combo is a 557 BBF, 14.8:1 CR, 1150 alky carb, 900HP.

Thanks!!!

MSD capcitor (red box) draining the battery

Corvette bob1 — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:49:24 GMT

A friend and me recently installed an MSD ignition system in my 1964 Corvette. It works fine, however, when the car is not running, the capacitor box is still drawing current from the battery, which, over a week or less, drains the battery, (after a lot of trouble shooting we disconnect the hot wire from the starter to the red box and the battery drain stopped), Shouldn't it stop drawing power when the ignition key is turned off?

Background;

we havealso installed a complete new wiring harness in the car. The Harness is of the old design. The MSD system has replaced the original points type distributor ignition system.

What have we missed?

Thanks bob

msd 8984

shade — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 03:01:15 GMT

I installed the starter saver with a MSD 7AL-2+. Does this item affect the timing?

7730/7720

skip — Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:17:50 GMT

Can the new grid and controller be mounted underhood? Or does it need to be away from engine heat?

Digital 7 7530 problem

Nazca Racing — Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:16:02 GMT

Our 7530 box has an issue. This weekkend it started to operate our shifter on the starting line. When we hit 4500 rpm our starting line rev limit the box would automaticly operate the shifter causing the car to roll the beams and leave in second gear.We have the shift programed for 6800 rpm
This was our fist day out and nothing was changed over the off season from previous runs when every thing worked as it should. We did no welding on the car We did remove the battery but no other wiring was changed. Any ideas ???